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          Caius Sivaris 
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        Posted - 2011.03.30 23:49:00 -
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            Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA
  For instance if you ask a GM "Is it ok to leave corp during a wardec while being camped in station so i can undock and leave safely" and he says "Sure you can leave corp right now and it wouldn't violate any rules"
  You then leave corp and undock past your former wt's and fly away safely (btw this has happened plenty of times)
 
 
 
  Those people don't rejoin the corp they just left if they happen to find a juicy target. They were griefed out of corp, success, victory.
 
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  Then all of a suddenly your former wartargets petition you for leaving corp to avoid a war dec and you then become banned by a different GM for reasons of "Leaving your corp to avoid a war dec"
  Is that right?
 
 
 
  Yes. You look like a kid that think he's very smart but that is actually too dumb to make the difference between the spirit and the letter of the law, or actually you do and have such a superiority complex that you think you're the only one... If you think you have ground to cry, go read the EULA, they can ban you for no other reasons than "they felt like it". Also shopping for the answer you'd like to hear with an oriented question is quite easy, GMs aren't usually shining stars of intellectual brilliance (until you get to a senior GM where they are usually quite decent).
 
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  Btw on another note, ppl in eve corp hop and leave corp to avoid war decs all of the time, they also log off in freighters when they jump into a gate camp in order to avoid being killed because they log off while cloaked so they disappear within 30 seconds and therefore cannot be killed. People do the cloak warp trick.... to avoid war targets.
 
 
 
  Only the logging off under gate cloak is borderline exploit in what you said, but as CCP can't reliably make the difference between a genuine disconnect/grid load crash and a logoff they can't really act on it, in practice for normal people leaving corp under wardec is perfectly fine as long as they don't rejoin as soon as they find an afk hauler belonging to their former WTs...
 
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  All you bears use the game mechanics to their full advantage to avoid flashies but its not ok if someone to take advantage of the mechanics to kill ppl who run from decs all their EVE life.
  Its a shame.
 
 
  I'm not quite sure you know who you're talking about, speaking of a few people that answered that thread.
  If you wanna gank bears, wardec them, and stick to your damn corp. Hundreds of people are successfully farming bears without the need to play with shifty corp hoping mechanics, what about you man up and start sucking less?
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          Caius Sivaris 
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        Posted - 2011.03.31 00:01:00 -
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            Originally by: Nuniki
  Bad: You exploit wartarget flagging mechanics. Example? Corp A and B are at war, you are currently not in Corp A but are waiting to have your application accepted when the moment is right, when Corp B engages thinking they have the upperhand (and then suddenly 2-3 people instantly join corp A who are on the gate/belt with them). It's my understanding that THIS is the abuse of corporation wardecking that people get suspended for.
 
 
 
  In his case that's that, questionable behavior but not actually bannable, then leaving immediately so he can haul loot from the comfort of a NPC corp. Joining a war late is ok, leaving immediately is what he got his tempban for. He's a no risk taken PvPer, on par with station camper with hordes of NPC corp logistics alt, or lowsec station camper that will drop their ship in a carrier bay and warp their pod if they start to lose. In short, someone that won't be missed.
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          Caius Sivaris 
          Dark Nexxus S I L E N T.
  
          
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        Posted - 2011.03.31 00:25:00 -
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            Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
   Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA Edited by: IAMYOURMAMA on 31/03/2011 00:02:13 Apparently people here may be a little dense.... Let me break this down for you...
  Corp hopping (important, pay attention) then Session changing by jumping through gate or docking then undocking to kill a juicy war target of the corp im joining is not what the member was banned for.
  Leaving a corporation to avoid a war dec (look right here) IS what the member was banned for.
 
 
 
  Can't possibly be 'leaving a corporation, right after a kill that by pure chance happened one minute after I joined'.
 
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          Caius Sivaris 
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        Posted - 2011.03.31 00:45:00 -
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            Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA
  No, was docked and i stated earlier was in that corp for a few days before i left.
 
 
  off course you were docked, can't leave a corp if you aren't. Was it right after a gank yes or no...
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          Caius Sivaris 
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        Posted - 2011.03.31 01:04:00 -
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            Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA
   Originally by: Caius Sivaris
   Originally by: IAMYOURMAMA
  No, was docked and i stated earlier was in that corp for a few days before i left.
 
 
  off course you were docked, can't leave a corp if you aren't. Was it right after a gank yes or no...
 
 
  No, it went like this. 1. gank 2. dock 3. 3 days 4. leave corp.
 
 
  And I suppose you omitted 0. one minute before 1, join
  Anyway it looks like a pretty odd ruling. Likely there is something else that made the GMs angry...
 
 
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